I guess I should preface this by saying I live in Kentucky and grew up a huge UK fan, but I think TyTy would've easily been Top 10, maybe knocking on the door to Top 5 this draft if he hadn't gotten hurt. The first ankle injury looked terrible, and when he finally came back he got rolled up on again. The word around here was that he was playing injured, but also was playing more timidly, worrying about doing more serious damage to that ankle. Idk how well he'd work on the Knicks, but I think when he's healthy he's a damn fine option. Personally, as a Knicks and UK fan, I'd love to see him on the Knicks, but that probably just the homer in me...
I don't think that's nuts at all. In case I didn't make it clear, I 100% think there's a world where he becomes a creator at the position. At the same time, from what I could see at least, the handle and burst weren't elite even when he was healthy. Now, there are ways around that, with awesome outside shooting off the dribble being the most obvious. Maybe he really develops that part of the game, and the handle gets better, and we're having a very different convo. I guess I just don't know if he's the *best* risk for the Knicks to take. Then again, I'm not exactly in love with any of the options I think will be there at 11, so...
I don't know if you already saw this and I have no idea if there is even a grain of truth to it, but an asshat (for some reason that means a somewhat reliable source) on a forum I am on posted the following trade as the Kings ask for the 4th pick. It is interesting, even if I don't think I would include RJ (and Davion would be somewhat duplicative if we use the 4th pick on Ivey).
"a little nugget i heard, the offer FROM the kings to the Knicks in discussions about the 4th pick..
Randle, RJ, future unprotected 1st for Barnes, Davion Mitchell and the 4th pick..
Knicks would come away with now having the 4th and 11th pick.."
Doesn't check out for me...not sure why the Kings would want to swap Barnes for Randle here, unless the Knicks are the ones pushing for that. That said, Mitchell and 4 for RJ, I think, is fair on paper.
I suppose they would be doing that part as part of the inducement to include RJ as Barnes would be a replacement at the 3 and Ivey would presumably be a combo pg/sg to replace him at SG. It would also be a massive salary reset for the Knicks as Barnes is expiring and RJ is due for a big raise, but as you have pointed out, there is much less pure free agency movement these days. The unprotected first round pick makes this a non-starter for me, but I don't think I would do it even if it was protected. You really have to think Ivey is a guaranteed star to include RJ.
I guess I should preface this by saying I live in Kentucky and grew up a huge UK fan, but I think TyTy would've easily been Top 10, maybe knocking on the door to Top 5 this draft if he hadn't gotten hurt. The first ankle injury looked terrible, and when he finally came back he got rolled up on again. The word around here was that he was playing injured, but also was playing more timidly, worrying about doing more serious damage to that ankle. Idk how well he'd work on the Knicks, but I think when he's healthy he's a damn fine option. Personally, as a Knicks and UK fan, I'd love to see him on the Knicks, but that probably just the homer in me...
I don't think that's nuts at all. In case I didn't make it clear, I 100% think there's a world where he becomes a creator at the position. At the same time, from what I could see at least, the handle and burst weren't elite even when he was healthy. Now, there are ways around that, with awesome outside shooting off the dribble being the most obvious. Maybe he really develops that part of the game, and the handle gets better, and we're having a very different convo. I guess I just don't know if he's the *best* risk for the Knicks to take. Then again, I'm not exactly in love with any of the options I think will be there at 11, so...
I don't know if you already saw this and I have no idea if there is even a grain of truth to it, but an asshat (for some reason that means a somewhat reliable source) on a forum I am on posted the following trade as the Kings ask for the 4th pick. It is interesting, even if I don't think I would include RJ (and Davion would be somewhat duplicative if we use the 4th pick on Ivey).
"a little nugget i heard, the offer FROM the kings to the Knicks in discussions about the 4th pick..
Randle, RJ, future unprotected 1st for Barnes, Davion Mitchell and the 4th pick..
Knicks would come away with now having the 4th and 11th pick.."
Doesn't check out for me...not sure why the Kings would want to swap Barnes for Randle here, unless the Knicks are the ones pushing for that. That said, Mitchell and 4 for RJ, I think, is fair on paper.
The Knicks at the trade deadline did inquired about Barnes if I weren’t mistaken
I don't know that it was confirmed but I know Randle definitely came up.
I suppose they would be doing that part as part of the inducement to include RJ as Barnes would be a replacement at the 3 and Ivey would presumably be a combo pg/sg to replace him at SG. It would also be a massive salary reset for the Knicks as Barnes is expiring and RJ is due for a big raise, but as you have pointed out, there is much less pure free agency movement these days. The unprotected first round pick makes this a non-starter for me, but I don't think I would do it even if it was protected. You really have to think Ivey is a guaranteed star to include RJ.