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Peter From NH's avatar

“ this one started off uglier than an orangutan’s armpit” that seems grossly unfair to one of our closely related evolutionary cousins...

In any case, one of the things I have been thinking about Grimes is that on offense, he plays too upright (on the plus side, might be part of the reason why he gets his 3 ball off so quickly). Seldom see him sink into his hips, and therefor, he doesn’t have much lateral quickness/explosiveness. When he goes to the hoop, it always is kind of a straight line take. He is pretty good at that, but it means he doesn’t have many options if he gets cut-off.

The great athletes intrinsically know how to sink and load their hips to allow them to explode both going forward and laterally. On defense he seems to load his hips when he first confronts the player, but not again as the play progresses. I think it might be the limiting factor on his offensive creation.

I might be out to lunch on this as I haven’t gone back and studied his film. More a general impression of how he looks on the floor coupled with what he does well and poorly.

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Lee's avatar

You nailed it with the Deuce thing. He’s a pro. He’s a great guy to have. He’s not a point guard - at least not yet. He’s actually become duplicative of Grimes. Similar size (slightly smaller) and solid on-ball defense. More importantly, he’s shooting just as well as Grimes (although I thiiiiiink long term I trust Grimes more as a shooter based on form alone). He actually does more than Grimes in the paint and has a little more “dog” in him. Most importantly, perhaps, Deuce is under contract for peanuts for the next 3 years! I’m becoming more comfortable trading Grimes for an on-ball creator and sliding Deuce right into Grimes’ rotation spot.

From there, it comes down to asset management - what point guard is good enough to warrant including Grimes in a trade. I think that it’s only Murray, of the guys who are being discussed? Maybe Jaden Ivey shakes loose from that trainwreck?

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